Sharing Jesus in Every Circle – Pastor Chris Bell’s Mission
About this episode
Pastor Chris Bell of Three Circle Church in Fairhope, Alabama joins Philip Cameron for a timely and urgent conversation about the church's call to preach the gospel with uncompromising clarity. Reflecting on the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the cultural shockwave it produced, Chris argues that this is a watershed moment for the American church — one that demands courage, not ambiguity. "Clarity does two things," he says. "It repels and it attracts." For too long, Bell contends, the church has chased cultural relevance and filled seats through watered-down messaging, leaving a generation hungry for the real gospel and for leaders who live privately what they proclaim publicly. Chris draws a sharp distinction between political engagement and gospel priority. While he openly identifies as a conservative and values Christian influence in every level of government, he is clear: "I'm a gospel guy. Political winds will always blow and change, but one thing that does not change is the power of the gospel to transform lives." He celebrates the surge in Turning Point USA chapter applications following Kirk's memorial as evidence that God is turning tragedy into revival momentum. The episode closes with a call for personal revival over cultural cheerleading — urging believers to be consistent, thoughtful, Bible-grounded people with staying power. Learn more about Three Circle Church at threecirclechurch.com.
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Quotes worth sharing
“Clarity does two things. It repels and it attracts. But if you're not clear, if you wanna avoid ever having anyone push back on you, just simply be ambiguous. And frankly, the church in many ways has lived in ambiguity for a couple of decades.”
“I think we've forgotten that clarity is kindness. One of the most kind things we can do is be clear. Ambiguity is cruelty.”
“In a soundbite culture, what changes the game are people with staying power, because soundbites come and go. But people who are consistent every day walking out their faith — I think that's the real revolution here, if we'll stay on point with it.”
What's Discussed
Pastor Chris Bell of Three Circle Church in Fairhope, Alabama, speaks with Philip Cameron about the church's responsibility to preach the gospel with clarity and courage in a pivotal cultural moment. Using the assassination of Charlie Kirk as a lens, Bell argues that Kirk modeled what the church has largely abandoned: the willingness to stand in the public square, hand the microphone to opponents, and let truth speak for itself. Bell warns against mistaking political enthusiasm for spiritual revival, calling instead for personal renewal, consistent Bible reading, and a generation of believers who live privately what they proclaim publicly. He celebrates the doubling of Turning Point USA chapter applications during Kirk's memorial as a sign of God's sovereign hand turning tragedy into gospel momentum.
- Charlie Kirk's Gospel Courage and Legacy
- Dangers of Ambiguity in the Modern Church
- Clarity as Kindness: Repelling and Attracting
- Gospel Priority Over Political Engagement
- Kirk's Public Square Courage and Debate
- Thoughtful Christianity in the Public Square
- Personal Revival Over Cultural Cheerleading
Episode Transcript
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Intro
Philip:Hey, welcome to Daily Faith. I don't know how the opening went all funny on us, but we're here anyway. And I'm glad you're with us. We're gonna have a great program today. We are living in momentous days. You've never seen — listen to me — you've never seen days like you're living in right now.
Philip:We were told that yesterday was going to be the rapture, and I'm still here. I hope you are too. Otherwise I'm in big trouble and I'm talking to myself. Let me tell you something, the only thing that counts in this day we're living in is where your feet are planted, and they better be planted on the rock, Christ Jesus. Everything else is sinking sand. That old hymn — on Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand. I dare not trust the sweetest frame of mind,
Philip:but wholly lean on Jesus' name. And as we see that day approaching — 'cause he's coming soon — as we see the day approaching, deception is what they asked Jesus: what's the sign of the last times? Deception. Be aware of deceivers.
Philip:And we are living in a generation where, especially with the device in your hand, it can tell you all kinds of lies and all kinds of junk. And with AI, they can put voices. In fact, the other day — we have a mission work in Moldova — and I gave a message to the new kids, with 20 brand new girls coming into our village that we have there. So I spoke and my son changed my voice to Romanian. So I was standing speaking and the computer AI matched up my voice
Philip:perfectly to Romanian. All the workers know I don't speak Romanian, and they were stunned that I was speaking to them all in Romanian. That's how deceitful and how deceiving things can appear. And nowadays you never know what you're looking at on social media, if it's real or not. Get to know the voice of God, get to know the heart of the Father, get to know him inside. And then when the devil comes to deceive you and tell you all kinds of junk to distract you — if the devil can distract you,
Philip:he's done his job. If he gets you off on rabbit holes all in your life, he doesn't have to fight you. You're busy down the rabbit hole. And that's why we're gonna stay fundamental. We're gonna stay on the cross and on Jesus. Everything else is extra.
Philip:So we're just so excited to have you with us today. Got a great guest, Chris Bell, pastors Three Circle Church — a multi-campus church in Fairhope, Alabama. And we were chatting just before the program started today, and we believe that the Lord is going to use what he's gonna say to speak into your heart. If you can help us today by hitting the share button, and you can also go to YouTube — it's really simple, YouTube forward slash Daily Faith, you can get us there.
Philip:And also Daily Faith TV is where all of the shows are cataloged. And I do a reel every day, like a 45-second, one-minute reel of a thought the Lord's given me. And I think we have Blessing Dear Life. We just want to affirm you in your faith that trusting Jesus is the only thing that counts. I'm delighted to have you with us. Stay right where you are. Welcome to Daily Faith.
Philip:Welcome to Daily Faith. My name is Philip Cameron, and I am so glad you're with us today. We have got a tremendous — I believe an important — show for you to listen to today, because God is doing something. Something is up in the world. Chris Bell is our guest today. He's from Three Circle Church in Fairhope, Alabama. It's a multi-campus church doing incredible things for the kingdom of God. And he's got a word for your heart today. We live and exist by every word that proceedeth, that continues to come from the heart of the Father.
Philip:And I believe that we just want to be a part of your daily walk with Jesus, to affirm you, to let you know that what you're thinking isn't crazy — the world is crazy. What we are believing is the truth. And when everything else falls and fails, the truth will stand.
Philip:As I mentioned in the intro, we have a mission work in Moldova and Ukraine. Long before the war broke out in Ukraine, we were rescuing girls there. Odessa is the great shipping port. One day my wife and I were coming back from Moldova and we came through Atlanta immigration, and the immigration officer asked where I'd been. I told him, and he was about to stamp my passport and he stopped. He says, where did you say? I says, Moldova. And he put a stamp down. He says, this is crazy. He said, I've just transferred up from the Caribbean
Philip:and we intercepted a container ship. And in the container ship there was a container with 38 Moldovan girls shipped from Ukraine down to the Caribbean. And he stopped my passport. I left. I was getting my bags, and my wife said, are we going to Ukraine? This is 8, 9, 10 years ago. And since then we've had a home there. We also have a village of homes in a place called Chisinau, the capital of Moldova. And every year at this time we take in new kids,
Philip:and we've just taken in over 20 girls. Every girl you're about to see — if captured by a trafficker — would generate $300,000 a year for the trafficker. And we take them to this village on the largest lake in Moldova, right there. We put them back in school and tell them, if you are born, God has a plan. And we are seeing miraculous things. These kids are turning from orphans into sons and daughters and into missionaries. So when Russia invaded Ukraine, 800,000 people came
Philip:to Moldova, and those kids went up to the border and fed the people coming across — walking moms running with their kids. And the husbands had to stay home to fight against the Russian army. And our kids, orphan kids, prayed for them and shared the gospel with them. And it was just the most amazing thing. They just sent me a video of the new kids. All these kids are brand new that you're gonna see in a few moments. And we rescue these kids from destruction. Watch this.
Philip:Absolutely amazing. They come to us with what is on their backs, maybe a little bag, sometimes a little plastic bag. And my wife Chrissy, in our warehouse here in our ministry — we are literally about to send a container to Moldova, we do that three or four times a year — and she makes up these great big Rubbermaid tubs. And the girls open those tubs at a welcome party. And the girls that are already in the house sing and shout and have a great time celebrating with them the fact that once they were lost
Philip:and now they're found. That's their welcome home box. And to watch them with umbrellas — they've never had a drawer to put their own clothes in, because in an orphanage you don't have your own clothes. And everything changes. And we are growing. We're building two new homes right now to finish them, to take 50 more kids in. And we only can do it with your help and your care and your prayers and your giving. Every house that we open takes 300K — people sponsoring the kids in the house and the home and the staff
Philip:and all the different costs that it takes. And you could sponsor and help us sponsor these homes by giving a dollar a day. A dollar a day won't change your world, but I promise you this, it will change their world. And they'll go to school and have their lives transformed — there are doctors and lawyers and police officers. One of our girls works in the French Embassy in Chisinau as an interpreter. And it's just amazing what grace and love has done in their lives.
Philip:And we are looking for people who can say, Philip, we would like to help sponsor the new houses, which will be for smaller kids. And your giving today can change someone's life or even turn it. So I pray that you'll be a part of the answer. Don't just curse the darkness. Be a part. You can give — you can make a check out to Orphan Hands, PO Box 25, Clinton, Tennessee 37716. You can also go to Daily Faith TV, there's a giving page there, and you can give an offering right there. And also you can go to our phone lines, a live phone number,
Philip:833 Daily Faith. Just dial 833 and then Daily Faith, spell it out on your phone, and a real life person will talk to you. And together we can partner and change the lives of these kids. As I said, every girl you've just watched — and we've got a boys' home too — every one of those girls, if a trafficker finds them, it's $300,000 a year profit into their pockets. They beat them mercilessly, use them 30 to 50 times a day.
Philip:And I think they deserve grace and love. If it was your daughter or your granddaughter, you would want someone to help. And that's exactly what we are doing. I'm delighted to have Chris Bell with me today. He pastors Three Circle Church in Fairhope, Alabama. A great church — I mean, it's reaching beyond. It's amazing. And he's been with us before on Daily Faith and I'm thrilled to have him back. Chris, welcome back to Daily Faith, my brother. God bless you.
Chris Bell:Oh man, it's great to be with you today. Again, we are just — I'm sure you're the same as I am — we're spectators to these amazing events that have taken place in the last couple of weeks, with the death of Charlie Kirk and all this stuff that's going on. The war's even expanding further. It sure seems like we're in the end days.
Charlie Kirk's Gospel Courage and Legacy
Chris Bell:You know, I grew up with a lot of predictions being made, with the charts on the stage and all of that. And I'll be honest with you, I got a little burnout on that.
Philip:Me too.
Chris Bell:I am far more interested in us being faithful. I am excited for when the Lord returns. I'm excited for that day, but I'm also very excited about this moment in history that he's given me an opportunity to be a part of. And I believe that God is doing great things. As C.S. Lewis would say, Aslan is on the move. And I'm excited about it.
Philip:I believe what happened with Charlie Kirk and that assassination — that horrendous thing that was witnessed by the world — I was aware of Charlie's work as a Republican activist. I didn't know that he preached the gospel so clearly and so forcefully in heathen places. I mean, he was going into the darkness and preaching the gospel. And when I heard on the news, I found myself getting to the television and I watched it, and then I went online and actually saw the entire shooting.
Philip:I thought, my goodness, this kid — he's been martyred. And we need to pick up the baton and present this forceful gospel to the world.
Chris Bell:Yeah. I mean, I think it's a very important moment. Number one, I had unbelievable admiration for Charlie Kirk. And the main thing that I loved about him is that he was willing to go into what I would consider the belly of the beast, so to speak. And instead of getting behind a keyboard, behind a podcast, behind a camera, he went face to face and actually debated truth and ideas and invited them to respond. That takes a level of courage in the public space that's hard to imagine. Also, it takes an ability to articulate and to quickly think.
Dangers of Ambiguity in the Modern Church
Chris Bell:And I think one of the dangers of modern Christianity is we don't think very well anymore. We're just not a thoughtful people. We think in sound bites. I hear people just regurgitating the things they heard on their favorite podcast, the sound bites they heard from their favorite news channel. And I'm not convinced it's coming from their core. Charlie had a core.
Philip:Oh my goodness.
Chris Bell:And even, you know, what I love about him is if you watch him over the years — we're talking about a young man, he was in his early thirties when he was assassinated a few weeks ago — he's been on the scene for quite some time. He became more clear. His presentation became more sharp over the years and more faith-based. It's obvious that he's been growing in the gospel, he's been growing in what he understood to be the truth.
Chris Bell:And I loved that he had an ability to change. He had an ability to sharpen and even correct the ways that he was thinking. That is a very powerful example to us. And I just think personally, as a pastor — I've been in the ministry now for 25 years — and I have watched every wind of whatever we want to call it, whatever the moment cool thing for the church to do has been. And I love that it seems like we're in a moment where everyone wants clarity.
Philip:Clarity.
Chris Bell:You know what? Let's be clear. Clarity is scary because clarity both repels and it attracts, and for some reason we are terrified of the repellent part of it.
Philip:Say that again. Clarity does what?
Chris Bell:To me, clarity does two things. It repels and it attracts.
Clarity as Kindness: Repelling and Attracting
Philip:Yes, it does both.
Chris Bell:Yes. But if you're not clear, if you wanna avoid ever having anyone push back on you, just simply be ambiguous. And frankly, the church in many ways has lived in ambiguity for a couple of decades. And we've chased everything to try to fill up our buildings and fill up our chairs. And I am glad to see — I have kids, my sons, my daughter — their generation is so over over-produced, ambiguous, watered-down Christianity.
Chris Bell:They want the gospel, they want the Bible. They want people who stand on stages to actually live privately what they proclaim publicly. And I think that's the moment we're in. And I hear people using terms like revolutionary. What's revolutionary is to teach a generation to wake up every day and read their Bibles and live private lives that align with public personas.
Philip:So true.
Chris Bell:All of those things are going to be game changers. So I'm very excited about that moment we're in. And I'm grateful for the way God is using Charlie Kirk and the aftermath of his assassination. As gruesome and as horrific as it was, God is already doing great things out of that tragedy.
Philip:I always find that the devil oversteps his mark. Every time he always pushes things — he thinks he's got his broken so far and he will push further. And when he does that, it breaks through into God, then God rises up. And when God rises up, that's when the enemies are scattered. And I'm sure hell was rejoicing when
Philip:that bullet struck him and he died. I believe he was — I personally feel he was dead before he hit the ground. My sons were watching with me and they're saying, there's a pulse, they found a pulse. And I'm saying, guys, what I just saw — he's not getting off the ground. That's done. And I'm sure the devil danced in glee thinking, yes, we've just silenced an effective voice for God. And suddenly out of this tragedy is coming this wave. I was watching the memorial service and they said there was like 62,000 applications
Philip:for chapters before the service. Right after the service there were 120,000. It had doubled during the memorial service.
Chris Bell:That's yeah. And those are really positive things. And again, as a pastor — as great as I look, I'm a conservative and I'm not ashamed to say that, and always have been — I would love to see a Christian elected to every office, every one. And I can't imagine how that could be controversial.
Philip:I want a Christian dog catcher.
Chris Bell:Right. But as much as I would like to see that, I actually don't believe that we can win the world through politics. I'm not saying they're not important, but I'm a gospel guy.
Gospel Priority Over Political Engagement
Philip:Love that answer.
Chris Bell:And what I am most excited about — because here's the deal — political winds will always blow and change. And I promise you, however long your side has the White House, someone else's side is gonna get it back at some point. It's called history. Go read it, everybody. It's gonna keep going.
Chris Bell:But one thing that does not change is the power of the gospel to transform lives. And what I celebrate right now is how Charlie Kirk in his life and now in his death points people to the gospel. And I'm hoping that we as conservative Christians across the country will not miss this moment, and that we will not simply point people to a political party, as important as I think all that is.
Chris Bell:And I'm not downplaying it, but you can maximize one thing without minimizing the other. I'm not minimizing how important left-right issues and cultural issues are, but I wanna maximize our priority, which is the gospel. We need to live the gospel and point people to the gospel with clarity.
Philip:Absolutely. And I think what he's done is he's underlined the power of the gospel uncompromised. I mean, he would say, if you disagree with me, come to the front of the line. And he would sit there and argue the point for the kingdom of God, without any doubts or fears. We're not sugarcoating this. The church has sugarcoated things for years and years and years. Please love us, you know, love us. We'll do anything, we'll twist ourselves in a pretzel. Just love us.
Chris Bell:That's correct.
Philip:And this kid just says, no, this is what the gospel said, this is what the Bible said. I was watching the other day and he was sitting with seven or eight girls — women — and some were OnlyFans and some were porn actresses. And he sat there and proclaimed the gospel, not in a judgmental way. And they all said at the end of this thing, we understand where you're coming from, you haven't judged us. He spoke in love, but he spoke the truth. And that's where the church has got to be.
Chris Bell:Yeah. I think we've forgotten that clarity is kindness. One of the most kind things we can do is be clear. Absolutely. Again, ambiguity is cruelty. And so let's be honest about where we stand. Let's have those conversations. I love that Charlie Kirk believed that the truth could stand in the public square and take the criticism, that it would stand. And I think, again, I watch what's going on and I think that if anyone should not applaud any suppression
Chris Bell:of free speech, it should be those of us on the right. If I believe in the truth, I believe my ideas are the truth. The truth can stand anything. So I shouldn't be afraid of any kind of attack or whatever. And I love that Charlie Kirk — you can't get any more courageous than holding a mic in your hand, looking your opponent in front of cameras and the whole world, and going, I'm gonna be quiet now and let you talk. That is a very powerful thing.
Kirk's Public Square Courage and Debate
Chris Bell:And see, that's what shots across Facebook posts and Twitter and X — those things — people love the megaphone of social media. And they think they're being courageous. It's like the guy in the car that's yelling at you as long as they're in the car. But when you pull into the same parking lot, all of a sudden everyone gets nicer.
Philip:Right. That's the truth.
Chris Bell:Charlie Kirk did not play the I'm-gonna-hide-behind-a-screen game. He held a microphone and handed it to the other side. Treated them like human beings. Would disagree, big time, would be clear. Sometimes people would think he was harsh, but he would still hand that microphone to them and say, okay, your turn. That's a powerful thing.
Philip:When my kids were growing up, we had a fireplace in our living room. And if they got near the fireplace, I wasn't being kind letting them get burned. My job as dad was to say, hey, get away from the fire. And that's, as you said, that's what real love is — telling the truth as to what the consequence of actions will take.
Philip:And I just think the church is coming to a real watershed moment. If we decide to speak the truth in love with all the compassion and grace that we can, I believe that the world — and as I'm saying, a month ago I didn't see this on the horizon. I had no concept. I was concerned as to where the ship was going. And all of a sudden God comes across and in five minutes turns what the enemy meant for evil — God turns to good. And we're now looking at the possibility of having a chapter of Turning Point,
Philip:this gospel-preaching entity, in every high school in America. How does God do that? Because God's sovereign and God knows, and God's working all things together for our good if we love him. And those are really good things.
Chris Bell:Again, my prayer is — here's the thing I look at — I think right now it's almost kinda like, oh wow, we just became the cool kids on the block again.
Philip:It's so true, Chris.
Chris Bell:And everyone's suddenly, all the Christians, suddenly everyone has a backbone. I'm not afraid anymore. Everyone looks courageous. Wow. So here's what I wanna know. I wanna know, are we gonna be able to remain clear? See, Charlie Kirk did not get to enjoy this wave. He was being courageous. And by the way, Charlie Kirk did not think he was perfect. He knew he needed a savior. People that are saying, hey, some of his arguments weren't — you know, we disagree with some of the things he said — number one, I don't see why we have to qualify our grief over a young man being assassinated.
Thoughtful Christianity in the Public Square
Chris Bell:I don't have to say, every time I mention Charlie Kirk, I feel I'm under no obligation to say, oh, but I didn't agree with everything he said. No. I'm just absolutely grieving the public assassination of a young man. But secondly, Charlie Kirk did not think he was right about everything. That's the whole point of public debate. I watched his arguments change over time. He changed, he grew. And to me, that is something else that I think he should inspire us to do, especially as believers. We need to be smart, thoughtful people.
Chris Bell:If we're gonna stand in the public square, it's not enough anymore to go, well, the Bible says — especially if you actually don't know where it says it, especially if you don't actually know your Bible. I mean, if you're in your fifties and you haven't read a book since high school and you're proud of that, but you watch Fox News every day and you're able to regurgitate what your favorite commentator said, I'm sorry, that's not gonna work anymore. We're gonna have to get our act together here. We need to stand in the public square and intellectually hold our own with the world.
Philip:I watched him — what I did was, when he died, I thought, I'm gonna learn about this kid, I've gotta find out about this. And I started looking at his videos and I watched the growth that you're talking about. But what blew my mind was that he could think on his feet. It was in him, it wasn't in notes in front of him. It was inside him. And whenever he was challenged, he could give scripture and verse and history and background and backstories as he was standing there. And as I watched Vance, the vice president, say, I've talked more about Jesus in the last two weeks and a half than in my whole life —
Philip:that's the cause and effect you're looking for. That's getting to the high places.
Chris Bell:Yeah. And I celebrate that. My hope is that people will not — because here's the deal — at the end of the day, Christianity is both a group thing, we're a family, and we're individuals as well. And I hope that people are not — it'd be really easy to feel spiritual because you're cheering on what you think is the right team right now. And not let it personally revive your life.
Personal Revival Over Cultural Cheerleading
Chris Bell:I'm hoping for personal revival. I wanna see a generation of young men be godly men and godly husbands and raise families and get married and do — like, that's how we're gonna change the world. And so in a soundbite culture, what changes the game are people with staying power, because soundbites come and go. But people who are consistent every day walking out their faith — I think that's the real revolution here, if we'll stay on point with it.
Philip:Well, I think this is a wake-up call for the church. And if we can rise to the occasion, I believe God could use this to have a mighty revival. Chris, thank you so much for being with us. You've been listening to Chris Bell from Three Circle Church in Fairhope, Alabama. I've got his information on the screen for you right there, and there's his website. Thank you so much for being with us today, and we pray that God will challenge you in these days we're living in to see Jesus reign and rule in the church and around the world.
Philip:Thanks for watching Daily Faith. We'll see you again. Bye-bye.
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Common questions
Why does Chris Bell say the church has struggled with ambiguity, and what does he think needs to change?
Chris Bell says the church has spent a couple of decades being ambiguous — chasing trends and watering things down to fill seats — and that clarity is what's actually needed now. He argues that clarity both repels and attracts, and while many churches have been afraid of the repellent side, younger generations are done with over-produced, watered-down Christianity and are hungry for the real gospel and the Bible.
What did Chris Bell most admire about Charlie Kirk's approach to public debate?
Bell most admired that Kirk didn't hide behind a screen or a podcast — he went face to face, handed the microphone to his opponents, and let them respond. Bell says that takes a rare level of courage and the ability to think from a genuine core, not just regurgitate sound bites from a favorite news channel.
Does Chris Bell think political wins are enough to change the culture?
No — Bell is clear that while he's a conservative and would love to see Christians elected to every office, he doesn't believe the world can be won through politics alone. He says political winds always shift, but the power of the gospel to transform lives doesn't change, and that has to remain the priority.
What does Chris Bell mean when he says 'clarity is kindness'?
Bell argues that being clear about where you stand is actually one of the most loving things you can do, and that ambiguity is a form of cruelty. He says the church has been so afraid of pushback that it has avoided honest, clear communication — and that needs to stop.
What kind of revival is Chris Bell actually hoping for after Charlie Kirk's death?
Bell is hoping for personal revival, not just a collective wave of enthusiasm. He wants to see a generation of young men become godly husbands, raise families, and walk out their faith consistently every day — because he believes that staying power and private faithfulness, not soundbites or political momentum, is what will truly change the world.
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