Daily Faith with Philip Cameron: Special Guest Pastor Joe Dobbins
Pastor Joe Dobbins, lead pastor of Twin Rivers Church in St. Louis, Missouri, joins Daily Faith to unpack the epidemic of church hurt — and the path back to wholeness. Drawing from his book Hope After Church Hurt, Joe reveals that as many as 65 million Americans hold faith in Jesus but no longer attend church, roughly equal to the number who do. "I felt like the Spirit of the Lord revealed to me that today we don't just need churches that reach the lost, but churches that also heal the found." Joe walks through eight distinct categories of church hurt, explaining why pain alone doesn't define the wound — the lie embedded in it does. Referencing 2 Corinthians 10, he describes how a stronghold is often "a wound wrapped around a lie," and points to John chapter 9 to show that healing requires a personal decision: Jesus never heals anyone against their will. He draws a powerful distinction between miracles (instantaneous) and healing (incremental), challenging the church to develop patience for the journey. The conversation closes with a reminder from Psalm 56:8 — that God collects our tears as evidence, not merely as a record of pain, so that justice can be served and peace can follow. Pick up Hope After Church Hurt wherever books are sold, or visit joedobbins.org to connect with Pastor Joe directly.
What's Discussed
Pastor Joe Dobbins of Twin Rivers Church in St. Louis, Missouri discusses his book Hope After Church Hurt, revealing that 65 million Americans — roughly the same number who attend church weekly — have faith but won't set foot in a local church. He identifies eight distinct types of church hurt, explains that true healing requires addressing not just the pain but the lie embedded in the wound (2 Corinthians 10), and distinguishes between instantaneous miracles and incremental healing. Citing John 9 and Psalm 56:8, Joe argues that God collects our tears as evidence so justice can be served, freeing believers to release pain and re-engage the body of Christ.
- 17:5765 Million Believers Avoiding Church
- 19:42Miracles vs. Incremental Healing
- 23:48Wounds Wrapped Around Lies
- 25:30God's Word Removes the Enemy's Lie
- 28:15Why the Church Needs You Back
- 29:37God Collects Our Tears as Evidence
- 31:00Eight Types of Church Hurt Explained
Featuring Joe Dobbins