Unembarrassed of Jesus: Travis Johnson on Bold Faith in a Compromising Culture
About this episode
Travis Johnson, senior pastor of Pathway Church in Mobile, Alabama, joins Philip Cameron to discuss his new book Unembarrassed of Jesus: Follow from a Distance, Lose Your Faith — Follow Closely, and Change the World. Drawing on 25 years of pastoral ministry, Travis makes a compelling case that a passive, moderate Christian faith in 2025 will not survive — but bold, unashamed faith will change the world. Travis unpacks the danger of following Jesus "from a distance," using Peter's denial as a biblical anchor and a vivid personal story about following the wrong truck on I-65 to illustrate how easily distraction leads believers astray. "Discernment is not knowing the difference between what is good and what is not good," he explains. "It's knowing the difference between what is good and what is almost good." He also recounts the moment his family was doxed and received death threats after he prayed publicly during Pride Month at Mobile's city hall — and how refusing to apologize led to Pathway Church's largest attendance and baptism numbers ever. Travis challenges every believer to recognize that the circle God has placed them in is their mission field: "The cavalry is not coming. You are the cavalry." Viewers can receive the first chapter of Unembarrassed of Jesus free by texting BOOK to 877-856-0444.
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Quotes worth sharing
“A moderate, passive Christian faith in 2025 is not going to survive. It is not. But bold faith will change the world.”
“When Jesus said to the disciples, one of you will betray me, they all said, not me. And what they ended up doing was saying, ask John, because John's head was on Jesus' chest. One ear was hearing his heartbeat, one ear was hearing his voice. And when you're that close to Jesus, there is no one that will ever point an accusation towards you, because where you are displays where your heart is.”
“They wanted me to apologize. So I put a post on social media. I said, I'll be making a statement at church. So that Sunday, the church was packed to the rafters. And I said, hey, they want me to apologize. I'm gonna make a statement. So here's my statement: I am not sorry. I do not apologize. We don't bow, we stand.”
What's Discussed
Pastor Travis Johnson of Pathway Church in Mobile, Alabama shares the heart behind his book Unembarrassed of Jesus, arguing that a passive Christian faith cannot survive 2025's cultural pressures — only bold, close proximity to Jesus will. Using Peter's denial and a personal story of following the wrong truck on I-65, Travis illustrates how spiritual distraction leads believers — and their families — astray. He recounts how his family was doxed and received death threats after praying publicly at Mobile's city hall during Pride Month, and how standing firm without apology produced Pathway Church's highest-ever attendance and baptisms. Travis also draws on his earlier book on household salvation — which sold 300,000 copies — to argue that parents who follow Jesus closely protect generations. He challenges every viewer: 'The cavalry is not coming. You are the cavalry.'
- Book Unembarrassed of Jesus Introduced
- Passive Faith Cannot Survive 2025
- Following the Wrong Truck on I-65
- John's Head on Jesus' Chest
- Household Salvation and Generational Faith
- Doxed for Praying at City Hall
- Refusing to Apologize and Standing Firm
- Practical Steps to Bold Unashamed Faith
Episode Transcript
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Intro
Book Unembarrassed of Jesus Introduced
Passive Faith Cannot Survive 2025
Following the Wrong Truck on I-65
John's Head on Jesus' Chest
Household Salvation and Generational Faith
Doxed for Praying at City Hall
Refusing to Apologize and Standing Firm
Practical Steps to Bold Unashamed Faith
Common questions
What inspired Travis Johnson to write Unembarrassed of Jesus?
Travis says the book grew out of 25 years of watching people drift away from faith — what he calls backsliding — and from noticing the pattern of Peter following Jesus 'at a distance' before denying him. He wanted to make the case that a moderate, passive Christian faith in 2025 simply won't survive, but bold, close-up faith can change the world.
What does Travis mean by following Jesus 'from a distance' — why is it so dangerous?
Travis illustrates it with a real story: when he tried to follow a stranger's truck to a tire shop, he lost sight of it and accidentally followed the wrong black truck all the way out of town. He says that's exactly what happens spiritually — when you're not tucked in close to Jesus, you get your eyes on an ideology that looks almost right and it leads you astray. He adds that when he lost sight of the truck, his son was also lost, underscoring how a parent's distance from Jesus puts the whole family at risk.
What happened when Travis refused to apologize for his prayer at city hall during Pride Month?
After praying for a 'hedge of protection around children being targeted by ideologies,' Travis and his family were doxed, received death threats, and were pressured to apologize. Instead, he told his packed congregation, 'I am not sorry. I do not apologize. We don't bow, we stand.' He says that Sunday became the church's largest attendance ever, they baptized more people that month than ever before, and giving surged — proof to him that when believers stand firm, God stands with them.
What practical advice does Travis give for moving from passive faith to bold faith?
Travis says many of the ideologies pressuring Christians are actually unscientific and illogical — they only feel dominant because believers keep backing up. His first piece of advice is simply to 'practice being normal' and honor the Lord without apology. He also reminds people that Jesus said if we're ashamed of him before men, he'll be ashamed of us before the Father — so when the enemy whispers to be afraid of your faith, choose to be proud of what God has done in you instead.
How does Travis connect following Jesus closely to your children's faith?
Travis says you rarely find an on-fire kid coming from a backslidden parent, so staying close to Jesus isn't just for your own sake — it's for your family. He frames it this way: if you knew Jesus was returning at midnight tonight, you'd spend every minute warning your kids to get ready. That same urgency, he argues, should drive us every single day, not just when the deadline feels immediate.