Waiting on God’s Timing: Lessons from a Small-Town Pastor’s Big Revival
About this episode
Pastor Greg Huguley of Forward Church in Amory, Mississippi, joins Philip Cameron to share hard-won wisdom on calling, patience, and building a thriving local church in a small town. Greg is the author of Dear Young Preacher, a practical guide for ministers navigating the early years of ministry, and his insights are as timely as ever. At the heart of the conversation is the danger of "birthing an Ishmael" — launching a ministry in the flesh before God's timing is right. Greg shares candidly: "You'll have opportunities to birth a ministry in the flesh, or you can wait on the promise." He recounts how closed doors at one church eventually led him to the right congregation in the same town, where Forward Church has now thrived for 14 years with around 600 regular attendees — remarkable for a community of just 6,500 people. Greg and Philip also dig into the importance of building the right staff team, avoiding the comparison trap, and knowing your place under spiritual authority. Dear Young Preacher is available now on Amazon. Learn more about Forward Church at forwardchurchms.com. If you know a young minister, this episode — and Greg's book — is a gift worth passing on.
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Quotes worth sharing
“Dear young preacher, if God has promised you a ministry, don't birth an Ishmael. You'll have opportunities to birth a ministry in the flesh, or you can wait on the promise.”
“Anything that you start by yourself, you've gotta maintain by yourself.”
“The waiting is not wasted. Never. And to wait for God to open the right door — you could even be happy doing a ministry that you birth out of your flesh, but you're never going to be fulfilled like you will if you'll wait on the Lord to open the right doors.”
What's Discussed
In this episode, Philip Cameron welcomes Pastor Greg Huguley from Forward Church in Amory, Mississippi, to discuss the importance of patience and divine timing in ministry. Greg shares his experiences of navigating closed doors that ultimately led him to establish a thriving church in a small town. He emphasizes the risks of 'birthing an Ishmael' by launching ministries prematurely and highlights the significance of building a strong staff team. The conversation also touches on the value of his book, 'Dear Young Preacher', which offers practical advice for young ministers. Greg's insights on spiritual authority and avoiding comparisons are timely for anyone in ministry.
- Impact of Recent Events on Ministry
- Navigating Closed Doors in Ministry
- The Danger of Birthing an Ishmael
- Building a Strong Staff Team
- Insights from 'Dear Young Preacher'
- Avoiding Comparison in Ministry
- Finding Fulfillment in God's Timing
Episode Transcript
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Intro
Impact of Recent Events on Ministry
Navigating Closed Doors in Ministry
The Danger of Birthing an Ishmael
Building a Strong Staff Team
Insights from 'Dear Young Preacher'
Avoiding Comparison in Ministry
Finding Fulfillment in God's Timing
Common questions
What is Greg Huguley's book about and who is it for?
Greg's book, 'Dear Young Preacher,' is a collection of practical lessons about ministry and pastoring that he jotted down over roughly three years. It's aimed at young men entering ministry — covering things like avoiding comparison with other churches, knowing your place under authority, and waiting on God rather than launching something in your own strength.
What does Greg mean by 'birthing an Ishmael' in ministry?
Greg uses the Ishmael analogy to warn young preachers against forcing a ministry into existence before God's timing. He says you can be happy doing something you started in the flesh, but you'll never be truly fulfilled the way you would be if you waited for God to open the right door.
How did Greg end up at Forward Church in Amory, Mississippi?
Greg had been trying to get hired at a different church in the same town, but kept hitting closed doors because his ministry license had lapsed. Out of nowhere, a different church in Amory called him, he met with them, and he's been their pastor for 14 years — a clear example, in his view, of God closing one door and opening the right one.
How big is Forward Church relative to the town it's in?
Amory, Mississippi has about 6,500 people, and Forward Church draws around 600 people on a typical Sunday. Greg also recently held a once-a-year youth service that brought in over 300 students — numbers he describes as 'ridiculous' for a town that size.
What does Greg say about building a church staff instead of going it alone?
Greg says the 'one-man show' era of ministry is over, and that a pastor can only effectively care for a very small number of people by himself. He learned from his own pastor to invest money in people rather than stockpiling it in the bank, and credits getting the right people — worship leader, student pastor, kids' pastors — into the right roles as a key reason Forward Church has thrived.