Breaking Barriers: Pastor Jerry Grillo on Living in Kingdom Authority

Dr. Jerry Grillo, pastor of Church 180 in Hickory, North Carolina, joins Philip Cameron for a revelation-packed conversation on why the disruptions, interruptions, and crises in your life may not be the enemy's attack at all — they may be God's divine mechanism to activate everything He has already placed inside you. Drawing from John 5 and the Pool of Bethesda, Dr. Grillo unpacks a powerful pattern: God sent an angel to trouble the waters, and whoever discerned what God was doing in the disruption received healing for whatever need they carried. "The miracle is still in the cup," Grillo declares. "God didn't put anything new in the water in the stirring — He activated what He had already placed there." Using a vivid coffee illustration shared with then-armor-bearer Travis Green, he shows how adding more resources to an already-prepared cup only ruins the mixture — what's needed is a stirring, not a supplement. The conversation also explores John 4 and the woman at the well, revealing how Jesus disrupted her normal routine to give her living water — and how she left her water pots behind the moment the eternal became more important than the ordinary. Dr. Grillo challenges believers to "lean into chaos," subdue their struggle with the authority God has given, and trust that confinement reveals what is truly inside them. For more from Dr. Grillo, visit churchone80.com or drjerrygrillo.com.