Breaking Barriers: Pastor Jerry Grillo on Living in Kingdom Authority
About this episode
Dr. Jerry Grillo, pastor of Church 180 in Hickory, North Carolina, joins Philip Cameron for a revelation-packed conversation on why the disruptions, interruptions, and crises in your life may not be the enemy's attack at all — they may be God's divine mechanism to activate everything He has already placed inside you. Drawing from John 5 and the Pool of Bethesda, Dr. Grillo unpacks a powerful pattern: God sent an angel to trouble the waters, and whoever discerned what God was doing in the disruption received healing for whatever need they carried. "The miracle is still in the cup," Grillo declares. "God didn't put anything new in the water in the stirring — He activated what He had already placed there." Using a vivid coffee illustration shared with then-armor-bearer Travis Green, he shows how adding more resources to an already-prepared cup only ruins the mixture — what's needed is a stirring, not a supplement. The conversation also explores John 4 and the woman at the well, revealing how Jesus disrupted her normal routine to give her living water — and how she left her water pots behind the moment the eternal became more important than the ordinary. Dr. Grillo challenges believers to "lean into chaos," subdue their struggle with the authority God has given, and trust that confinement reveals what is truly inside them. For more from Dr. Grillo, visit churchone80.com or drjerrygrillo.com.
Part of our Overcoming trials collection of conversations.
Quotes worth sharing
“God uses disruptions to create a stirring, to flavor your life. That what he had already put in the cup will be activated in the stirring. It takes a disruption to activate it. It took a disruption — the sweetener in your life — to activate what's in it. And so the shaking, the stirring, this disruption, the troubling that you are going through right now — it's not the enemy, it is God. It could be God. It's God activating what he's already put in the cup.”
“You have to discern something you don't know is keeping you imprisoned to what you already know. And you are trying to solve it with something you already know, when God is trying to activate the mixture in this disruption you're experiencing right now. The miracle is still in the cup.”
“She's walking to the well, all by herself. She's carrying water pots. And if she's saying this — I'm half Jew and I'm half Gentile. Is half of me good enough for God? And God shows up at the well and says, listen to me, half is enough if I get in the mixture.”
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What's Discussed
Dr. Jerry Grillo, pastor of Church 180 in Hickory, North Carolina, delivers a revelation rooted in John 5 (Pool of Bethesda) and John 4 (the woman at the well). He argues that God — not Satan — sends angels to trouble the waters, and that whoever discerns divine activity in disruption receives healing for any need. Using a coffee-stirring illustration from a road trip with then-armor-bearer Travis Green, Grillo demonstrates that adding more resources to a God-prepared cup ruins the mixture; only stirring activates what is already inside. He also explores how Jesus disrupted the Samaritan woman's routine to impart living water, prompting her to abandon her water pots for an eternal encounter. Grillo urges believers to lean into chaos, speak order to their circumstances, and trust that confinement reveals inner character.
- God Sends Disruption, Not the Devil
- Pool of Bethesda and Troubled Waters
- Coffee Cup Illustration with Travis Green
- Adding Resources Versus Divine Stirring
- Activating the Jesus Within You
- Woman at the Well and Living Water
- Lean Into Chaos and Speak Order
Scripture in this episode
Episode Transcript
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Intro
Philip:Wow.
Philip:Hello. Welcome to Daily Faith. My name is Phil Cameron, and our pre-show before we start the program — God wants to interrupt your world for something better. God is going to disrupt your world.
Philip:And I've got a friend today, a great man of God. Dr. Jerry Grillo. The thing that you are fighting against may be God's mechanism to change everything in your life. And I believe that you have tuned into this program today because of a purpose. God is about to fix stuff in your life, and I can't wait for you to meet him. If you've never heard of Bishop Jerry Grillo, you've never heard this man preach.
Philip:He's something else, and he is a great friend of mine. Help us, if you would — if you can hit the share button and get this out. We've learned that they can control how many folks see your programs if they don't like the content, and they're not crazy on Christian programming. And the one way we can get past that is if you hit share, tell a friend about it. And if you love Daily Faith, whatever you're watching, share it with someone. And that gets us into new pastures to share what God's been doing.
Philip:Daily Faith is here to encourage you on your daily walk with the Lord Jesus. Nothing is more important in your life than serving him and being his. And the devil will try and distract you, and dissuade you, and discourage you — all kinds of that. But I've got good news for you: that God will lift you up and encourage you, because he is on your side. And if you hit the little bell when we go on the air, it'll register with you and you'll hear that we're on the air. We're also on YouTube. I was looking yesterday at some of our numbers on YouTube, and we need to do a whole lot better there. And if you get the alerts of Daily Faith coming on, could you go and join YouTube? It's really simple — just youtube.com/dailyfaith.
Philip:It is so simple. And we want to boost that as well. And I make posts — reels, like a 45-second thought that you really will be blessed by — just what God's been speaking to me in a really short, condensed form that you can carry in your mind and your spirit, to let you know that God is on your side. I really feel that today is gonna be important to so many people, that you're gonna see God's will worked out, that the disruptions of your life are God's way of changing your future. And I believe that God is gonna speak to you today. I know there's someone watching this now, and you're going through a battle and you're thinking, my whole world is shaking.
Philip:No, no, no. God's got the whole thing in his hands. He's got the whole world in his hands, and he's got you in his hand as well. So I want you to watch this today. Also, Daily Faith TV — dailyfaith.tv — is our home base. All our shows are there. You can go back, and pretty much whatever you're going through, we've talked about on this program. You'll be blessed by it. And also there's a place that you can buy merchandise that supports our ministry to orphans. And I'll be talking about that in a few moments when we start the show. I am so happy you are here with us today. Welcome to Daily Faith.
Philip:Hey, welcome to Daily Faith. My name is Philip Cameron, and I am so happy that you have joined us today. I've got a great friend that's on our program. Dr. Jerry Grillo is a great man of God. He is amazing. Every time he talks to me, he just inspires me to believe and to seek God more. And before the program started, we were just chitchatting, getting reacquainted again. And he spoke something today that I believe is a rhema for you.
Philip:Whatever your circumstances, and what the devil wants to do — the devil wants to sow confusion into your life. If he can get you going back and forth and not knowing where you are, he's got you beat. He'll anchor you in your despair. But God uses the devil's confusion for a totally different purpose. And we are gonna talk about that today, and I can't wait. As you know, we have a mission work in Moldova. 35 years ago, I adopted a wee boy, a little orphan boy that no one else wanted.
Philip:And it is just the most amazing story. He now is a grown man with a wife and a baby, works in the ministry, and is my right-hand man as I travel across the country speaking in churches. And so when I adopted him, it took us a year to go through the process. And during that time, I discovered that the orphanage had never had toilets. So I put in new toilets. The roof leaked, so I fixed the roof. The beds were painted with lead paint — metal, terrible beds with horsehair mattresses.
Philip:So I made 200 new beds for all the kids in the orphanage. And in the year it took me to adopt him, I fell in love with missions. I fell in love with caring and loving for kids that no one else wanted. And that's what we've been doing as a family for the last 35 years. Recently, in the last 25 years, we've built a fabulous place called Vatra Village. It is the most amazing village of homes where we take young folk that have nowhere to go, that are at risk of being trafficked.
Philip:And we take them to this village you're looking at right now, and we put them back in school. The things that a girl needs — every girl you'll see in this video, if a trafficker gets her, beaten and raped until she breaks under their brutality, they will use her 30 to 50 times a day until they kill her. And they come to us, and we put them back in school and we tell them, if you're born, God is alive — you're not a mistake.
Philip:And the most incredible things are happening to these kids. And last week they sent me a video. Now, they make all these videos themselves. They produce the whole thing. We don't tell them what to do. When they come to us, it's the first time we've heard that they're doing something. And they had a graduation party, a picnic on the green — the village green at Vatra Village. And they celebrated their lives, being graduates from different colleges and schools.
Philip:And they sent me this video. And I want you to see what your giving and your support can do for an orphan with no hope. Watch this.
Hi everyone. My name is Emma. Today's graduation day, and it's such a special day for me. I graduated in finance and banking. I want to say a big thank you to everyone who helped me to get here. Thank you. My name is Anna. I am an English translator. Thank you for everything. My name is Aona. I finished the art school. I am Helen now. I am an interior designer. I am very grateful for all the effort you have put into supporting me in achieving my dream. I'm Nadia. Thank you for helping me to finish my study in leadership and training. My name is Madina. Now I am a social worker. I am very grateful that I had the opportunity to stay here and to grow up. My name is Adriana. Advocate, a chef. My name is Lina. I studied bio career. Thank you for all your support. My name is Daniel, and I have graduated from high school. For the future, I plan to study in the IT field. And now I feel that I step into my future with a specific faith — the faith you have given to me, the faith in humanity, the faith in my capabilities, and the faith in our God. Thank you.
Philip:And that is the power of redemption. These kids come to us and don't speak any English. They've had no hope. All their lives have been battered — by an alcoholic father, the mother leaves them. I mean, the stories that they tell me of the pain and heartache they go through is just unbelievable. And they come to us and we say, listen, God has a plan for your life. You're not a mistake. They don't want you, but God wants you. And the transformation — those kids you just watched — are now about to go into work. And several of the girls will get together and we'll help them find an apartment. And we keep supporting them until they can stand on their own feet. Some are now doctors and lawyers and police officers. It's amazing.
Philip:Every one of the house parents at Vatra Village — each house has house parents — every one of the house parents were once orphans that God has used us to save and protect and educate, now married with their own kids, and now are helping us by training other young folk. In fact, we are about to start a brand new ministry that is just thrilling our souls. We've just bought two homes and about 28 acres of land and a farm in a town called Ungheni. And we are gonna take these two homes you are looking at right now — in that big square to the right of all those other houses.
Philip:And those houses will hold 50 little kids between the age of four and 16. And we're gonna build a youth camp that we can take young folk from all over Moldova — our kids, orphan kids, broken kids. God uses them to have camps and share the gospel and tell these kids that are coming into the camps, God loves you. He's transformed our lives. So apart from the color scheme in this house — we're gonna paint over all that pink — and we'll be replacing those big fancy beds with bunk beds and stuff. But we need you to help us finish this house and purchase these homes so we can reach more kids for the kingdom of God.
Philip:Some of these kids live in dire situations until the day they come to us and they're transformed by the power of God. Every home that we open takes 300 people giving a dollar a day to support. Every home we open takes 300 people giving a dollar a day. Could you help me by supporting one of these new houses? We need 600 new sponsors right now before we can open the doors. We are now interviewing house parents and we're talking to people.
Philip:Some of our kids that are now house parents at Vatra are thinking about going, and praying, and going to open this new facility that we're working on. But I can't do it until God speaks to you and you obey. 300 people will open one house — one of the houses, the one that needs to be repainted to get rid of that pink. That house is ready. We could occupy that house today and open, if I had the support for it. Please help me. These little kids will be between four and 16. We had a horrible thing happen.
Philip:A young girl came to our ministry through social workers in the village. She was in a horrible family, an unbelievable circumstance. And she came to us and we took her in. Although she was underage, we were allowed to take 16 years old and over — she was 14. Her name was Maria. And they made us put her back, and we had to put her back to the village where she came from. And she was gang raped and she lost her mind. Her mind broke. And that is why we have believed God for these two new houses.
Philip:And we just need you to stand with us. A dollar a day won't change your life. You won't feel impoverished by giving a dollar a day. It won't change your financial situation. But for these little kids like Maria, it will change their entire destiny. If you could help me, I'd really appreciate it. You can contact us. It's really simple. Just make a check out to Orphan's Hands, P.O. Box 25, Clinton, Tennessee, 37716. You can call — we have an 800 number. 833-DAILY-FAITH. Call that number. There's a live person there. And say, I want to be one of 300 people that will help Philip and help Orphan's Hands get this new house open for these little kids.
Philip:We're coming up to crucial times, school-wise, in Moldova. And so we really need to be on this right now. And you are giving today — you are giving a dollar a day. If I were to take you and let you meet these kids and say their lives have been saved for a dollar a day, every one of you would say, my goodness, I want to be a part of this. I need you to pray about it right now. And the numbers are on the screen. You can also go to dailyfaith.tv. There's a giving page there. Get on there and say, Philip, I'm one of the 300 people. I'm gonna be a Gideon's army to rescue these young folk from hell.
Philip:And they are the candidates for the traffickers to offer a bogus job. That's what they do. They offer a bogus job. And because they're desperate, they take the offer, get in a car, and you never see them again. It's beyond belief. Please pray about that. I've got a friend with me today that just blows my mind every time I talk to him. He has revelations from God about our walk with him. And Dr. Jerry Grillo is my friend.
God Sends Disruption, Not the Devil
Philip:The biggest thing I can say about him is he's my friend. He pastors 180 Church in Hickory, North Carolina. Jerry, I am delighted to have you with me, my friend. God bless you.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:I'm very excited to be with you, Philip. You're my friend too. I love you. Thank you. I love your passion. Thank you. I love your family. I wanna change my last name to Cameron.
Philip:Oh, you are so kind. I know you don't mean a word of it, but it sounds good. Anyway, thank you.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Yes. I really love your ministry. I mean, I'm just sitting here amazed at what God does through you. And I'm amazed. I just wanna encourage — I'm amazed. And what happened was, when this thing started, I adopted a boy. I'm done. That's me. Done my good deed for the day. I've taken a baby into my family. And little did I know that that was the hook in my jaw that has occupied myself and my wife and my whole family for 35 years, back and forth.
Philip:Isn't it interesting that the Bible is a book of patterns and parallels, and you adopted your bummer lamb.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Yeah. And it created a disruption and an interruption on your normal course of action.
Philip:Boy, did it ever.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:It's amazing to me. I was reading in John 5 and John chapter 4. I was doing a series on the woman at the well. And really talking about — I heard Rob Parsley say he preached his whole life, where's the preacher, where's the preacher? And now he said, I look at megachurches around the world and my question now is, where's the power? Where's the anointing? And that got my mind on, you know, where is the power?
Pool of Bethesda and Troubled Waters
Dr. Jerry Grillo:And God began to deal with me about the woman at the well, John chapter 4, and the Pool of Bethesda, John chapter 5. And this came to me, Philip — in John 5, it says at a certain time, at a certain season, God — not Satan, no — God would send an angel. And he would trouble the waters. And whoever — now watch — could discern what God was doing in the disruption, first in the trouble — if they got in, they were healed of whatever need.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Now watch. I sat there and said, wait a minute. There were blind people there, there were deaf people there, there were lame people there. Very human. And here God said — there wasn't a specific healing. No. In the disruption there was a manifestation to meet the need that got in it. Whatever need, whosoever got in — whatsoever.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:The disruption — I believe right now, in the next 11 minutes, there's gonna be such a disruption on the airwaves, such a troubling, that the revelation you and I are going to touch on is going — people are going to get whatever they need today on Daily Faith. And someone's watching just now and their life's in a disruption phase, and they think it's the devil. And it's not the devil after all. It's the Lord that's stirring things up and changing things through the disruption.
Philip:It's God using moments of trouble, moments of disruption.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:And the disruption — a trouble, a crisis — is trying to confine you into a reaction. Confinement reveals me. When I become confined to a crisis, it's going to reveal what's inside of me. And I've noticed in my life that disruptions, interruptions of normal flow, really affect me. It could defeat me. I can be going in a victorious feeling, and a moment of interruption, a moment of a disruption, and I can become melted down, hurt. And I didn't realize something — that sometimes — let me tell you a story.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:I was going to preach in Charlotte and I had to leave early. And my armor bearer at the time was a young boy named Travis Green. Travis Green's a mega pastor right now. But Travis Green was my armor bearer. And we're driving to Charlotte, Philip. And we go to Bojangles and I get a cup of coffee, and I like two Splendas and cream. So I'm talking and they're asking me questions. And I put my two Splendas in and I put my two creams in. I get in my truck and I go to taste it. And it's terrible. And I pop the top and I'm fixing to put two more Splendas in it and two more creams. But Travis gets in the car and he goes, no, no, no, no, Bishop, you've already put it in. You just watch — it just hadn't been stirred.
Coffee Cup Illustration with Travis Green
Dr. Jerry Grillo:And it dawned on me that God uses disruptions to create a stirring, to flavor your life. That what he had already put in the cup will be activated in the stirring. It takes a disruption to activate it. It took a disruption — the sweetener in your life — to activate what's in it. And so the shaking, the stirring, this disruption, the troubling that you are going through right now — it's not the enemy, it is God. It could be God. It's God activating what he's already put in the cup.
Philip:Boy, that is — the healing was already in the pool.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Yeah. And it was the stirring of the angel that unlocked whatever they needed to get in it. That's amazing. And it just dawned on me that we live our lives so under — not understanding that God has given us everything we need now. I sing a song that's in my mind: God's able to do just what he said. You remember that song? He will do, he's able to do, fulfill every promise to you. Don't give up on God, 'cause he's not giving up. And it just dawned on me how many of us in Christendom live our lives, Philip, and because we don't taste or experience the manifestation, we keep trying to add to the cup.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:And what would've been good becomes ruined, because we keep trying to put resource into what the source has already put in the cup. We're trying to add to it. And it doesn't need you to add something to your life. It's needing God to disrupt you for a moment. Stir it. The moment of a stirring, the moment of an interruption of normal flow — it's activating what God Jehovah has already put in the cup.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Someone's watching just now and their life is in a stirring process, and they're thinking, oh, the devil's gonna destroy me. It isn't the devil. Listen to me, it isn't the devil. God is working something in your life to transform you, to move you to the next level, to move you to a different job, to move you to whatever it is. And if you allow the negativity that the devil wants to pull out of the circumstance to be the dominant factor, then it becomes trouble. But if you sit back and say, oh no, no, no, God's in control. God is my father. He will not give me a stone. And when you do that, you are going to step yourself into the next level of your life. And that's a prophetic word for you today.
Philip:When you talk, you activate my thinking. I like talking to you.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Likewise. I love talking to you. Many Christians — listen to me, this is not an insult, this is an observation. I'm 63. I've preached in many countries, I've been on many platforms. This is an observation, it's not a criticism. Most Christians know how to talk about the Jesus in heaven. Christians know how to talk about the Jesus in heaven. But they don't know how to activate the word inside them. They don't know how to get to the Jesus in them.
Adding Resources Versus Divine Stirring
Philip:Boy, that is the truth.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:Oh, they know who he is there. But the earth doesn't respond to the Jesus on the throne. No, the earth around you responds to the word in your heart, Jesus in your heart. And it's the disruption — every resource has — if I use resource to add to resource, I replenish one to fill the other. That's not kingdom. I could have got some more Splenda and kept adding it to the cup. And resource adding to resource would ruin the mixture. But just a stirring, a disruption, a shaking, a moving — and what God had already put inside the cup will manifest.
Activating the Jesus Within You
Dr. Jerry Grillo:I'm not crazy. Listen, I'm not crazy with coffee. But once in a while when we're driving long distance, we'll go to a Pilot or a Flying J or whatever, and they've got this whole coffee thing set out. And I go in there — because I have a prejudice against coffee, I don't like black coffee, I like light and sweet coffee. So I'll fill up my big cup and I'll go to the bar where all the different things are. And the times I've over-sweetened something and over-creamed something, that is no use in my life because it's just overdone. And there are folk watching just now that have overdone their circumstance, and they're gonna let God fix it for them.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:God needs to take — like the bitter pools of Marah — he needs to take out the bitterness and put sweetness back in again. It's this disruption. You have to discern something you don't know is keeping you imprisoned to what you already know. And you are trying to solve it with something you already know, when God is trying to activate the mixture in this disruption you're experiencing right now. The miracle is still in the cup.
Woman at the Well and Living Water
Dr. Jerry Grillo:God didn't put anything in the water in the stirring. He activated what he had already put there. The word had already been in the water. Isn't it interesting that in John 4, the woman comes to the well, and in John 5, the well comes to the man? Every disruption, every struggle — I know we only got a few more minutes, so listen to me. I know you're going through struggle.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:I know there's been disruptions in political arenas right now. I know there's disruption in the economy. I know there's disruptions in relationships. I know there's disruptions in your emotions and hurts. And guess what? There's a miracle in the middle of that stirring. There's a miracle for you. I believe that God is about to, right now on Daily Faith, manifest whatever you need. You are gonna receive. But you gotta get in the mixture. You gotta get in the flow.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:You've got to be willing to step into your struggle. You know, the Bible says that you've been given the authority to subdue. The Bible said that he gave Adam the power to subdue. That word subdue, Philip, means this — it means to lean into chaos. Lean into your struggle right now. Don't run from it. Lean into this disruption and speak order to it.
Philip:That is so powerful. Trust divine order.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:And the woman at the well — God has put his anointing — I've just taken the back end off the program, so I've added another minute to give you more time on this thing. This woman at the well was about to totally change the history of the church, because she is a Gentile talking to a Jewish rabbi, which was not kosher — excuse the pun. He sends her — talking about racism — he sends her into the village. The reason why she's there at midday is because she can't stand the attacks and the bitterness of the village people, because she has had five husbands and is living with the sixth one. No woman in the village trusted her. I mean, she's hated. And she is the one that the great disruptor comes along and throws something into the mix that had never been thought of.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:He says, don't say there's four months to harvest. Look, the fields are white unto harvest. The first missionary ever in the church was this woman. Talk about a disruption, Philip. She's walking to the well, all by herself. She's carrying water pots. And if she's saying this — I'm half Jew and I'm half Gentile. Is half of me good enough for God? And God shows up at the well and says, listen to me, half is enough if I get in the mixture.
Dr. Jerry Grillo:And he stirred up her life. And here's what the Bible said, and this is it — she left her water pots. That was not the main point anymore. That was no longer the focus. She said, I'm not living this life. I'll go get new water pots. But this moment is my moment, never to be repeated again. And Jesus disrupted her normal flow. He disrupted her normal routine to give her living water.
Lean Into Chaos and Speak Order
Dr. Jerry Grillo:I know we've got a few minutes. Listen to me. You're gonna leave your water pots today, right now on Daily Faith. And when this broadcast ends, the struggle is gonna unlock the manifestation of whatever you need. And you need to call the numbers and let us know. Reach out to us — hit Philip up on his DM or on Facebook and just say, I was touched in the disruption of Daily Faith.
Philip:Listen, Dr. Jerry Grillo has written a number of books. They are absolutely amazing. They are rhema words like this. I want you to get in contact with him. It's really simple — church180.com, church180.com. drjerrygrillo.com. Any of these — you need to get a hold of some of his teachings. They will absolutely blow your mind.
Philip:Get them today. There's a disruption coming in your life. We are out of time. I've thrown off the bumper at the end of the program because I wanted to give you every second I can squeeze out of this. Thank you for being with me today. I want you to pray about the disruptions of your world, that God is changing things for you in the storm. Thank you for watching Daily Faith today. Help us with this new house in Ungheni, Moldova. We love you. We'll see you again. Bye-bye.
Common questions
What does Dr. Jerry Grillo mean when he says disruptions in your life might actually be from God?
Dr. Grillo points to John 5, where God — not Satan — sent an angel to trouble the waters at the Pool of Bethesda, and whoever got in was healed of whatever they needed. He says that when life feels shaken or stirred, it may be God activating what he has already placed inside you, not the enemy trying to destroy you.
What is the 'coffee cup' illustration Dr. Grillo uses, and what does it mean?
Dr. Grillo describes getting a coffee at Bojangles and nearly adding extra sweetener because he couldn't taste it yet — until his armor bearer Travis Green pointed out it just hadn't been stirred. He uses this to illustrate that God has already put everything you need into your life; the disruption or struggle is simply the stirring that activates what's already in the cup, and adding more resources on your own can actually ruin the mixture.
What does Dr. Grillo say about the difference between 'the Jesus in heaven' and 'the Jesus in you'?
Dr. Grillo observes that most Christians know how to talk about Jesus on the throne in heaven, but don't know how to activate the Word that is already inside them. He says the earth around you doesn't respond to the Jesus on the throne — it responds to the Word in your heart, and disruptions are what God uses to activate that inner authority.
How does Dr. Grillo use the woman at the well to explain what God does through disruption?
Dr. Grillo notes that the woman at the well was an outcast — half-Jewish, half-Gentile, with five ex-husbands — who showed up alone at midday to avoid the village. Jesus, the 'great disruptor,' interrupted her normal routine and told her the fields were already white unto harvest, making her the first missionary in the church. Dr. Grillo says she left her water pots behind because the disruption shifted her entire focus, and that's what God's disruptions are meant to do for every believer.
What does Dr. Grillo say the biblical word 'subdue' means, and how should Christians apply it?
Dr. Grillo explains that the word 'subdue' — as in God giving Adam the power to subdue the earth — means to lean into chaos. Rather than running from struggle or disruption, he says believers should lean into it and speak order to it, because that is how kingdom authority is exercised.
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