Daily Faith with Philip Cameron: Special Guest Bishop Paul Zink
About this episode
Bishop Paul Zink, overseer of New Life Christian Church in Jacksonville, Florida, joins Philip Cameron for a wide-ranging conversation about the spiritual forces shaping our world and the urgent call for the church to engage in supernatural warfare — not just political action. Drawing on decades of pastoral experience, Bishop Zink warns that "it's more than biblical philosophy against woke philosophy — it's a spiritual nature," urging believers to recognize the demonic character behind ideological movements like wokeism and globalism. Bishop Zink points to the current geopolitical moment as the "beginning of sorrows" described in Scripture, noting that the nations mentioned in biblical prophecy are the very ones dominating today's headlines. He reflects on a pivotal lesson from Dr. David Yonggi Cho's prayer movement in Seoul, South Korea — where 250,000 believers in a single prayer gathering helped push back the threat at the DMZ — as proof that intercession, not military or political mechanisms alone, is what protects nations. He also recommends the film Nefarious as a must-watch for every minister seeking to understand demonic influence on human thought. The conversation closes with a stirring challenge: the church must raise up intercessors and prayer warriors in every city and region, building a spiritual border wall against the powers of darkness. Don't miss this prophetic, grounded conversation with one of America's most respected pastoral voices.
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Quotes worth sharing
“The devil doesn't play politics. He plays supernatural warfare. And his target isn't Washington. His target is the church. He wants to destroy the church because that is the last agency of God to resist him on this earth. So if we only use political schemes and mechanisms, we are missing out on the fact that we don't wrestle against flesh and blood. So it's a two-pronged war.”
“If we're not careful, the church will fall back into this idea that we fight politically, and they'll forget to fight supernaturally. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
“It's not police that's gonna do it, it's not ICE that's gonna do it. That's all fine, those are mechanisms of the earth. But it's the Holy Ghost-filled church that is anointed and visionary and in love with Jesus that is going to be the bulwark, the ultimate bulwark, against what's taking place in the world.”
What's Discussed
Bishop Paul Zink, overseer of New Life Christian Church in Jacksonville, Florida, delivers a prophetic assessment of the current global moment, identifying it as the biblical "beginning of sorrows." He argues that wokeism and globalism are not merely political ideologies but spiritual forces with demonic natures that must be confronted through supernatural warfare, not politics alone. Referencing Dr. David Yonggi Cho's mass prayer movement in Seoul, South Korea — where gatherings of 250,000 intercessors helped hold back North Korean aggression at the DMZ — Zink makes the case that prayer and intercession are the church's most powerful weapons. He also recommends the film Nefarious as an essential resource for understanding satanic influence on human thought and culture.
- Beginning of Sorrows and Biblical Prophecy
- 2024 Election as Divine Intervention
- Globalism as a Demonic System
- The Film Nefarious and Satanic Influence
- Political vs. Supernatural Warfare
- Satan's Target Is the Church
- Seoul Korea Prayer Movement and the DMZ
- Raising Up Intercessors in Every Region
Episode Transcript
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Intro
Philip:Hey, welcome to Daily Faith. My name is Philip Cameron, and I am absolutely delighted to have you with us. We've got a great show today. One of my best friends on the planet, he's been a mentor to me for many, many years. I consider him my pastor, Bishop Paul Zink. He started a tremendous church called New Life in Jacksonville, Florida. He also has a school, which is the best I've ever seen anywhere in the country. And he has got tremendous insight into the kingdom of God, what's happening now in the church.
Philip:Let me tell you something, you've gotta be aware of what's going on right now, because we are living in momentous days. These are the days that the prophets pointed to all those years ago. And you are watching things take place and unfolding before you that needs to keep you alert in your spirit, to be in tune, in tune to listen to the bridegroom. He's gonna come. Have oil in your lamps. I'm telling you now, because you are seeing things that I've heard people all my life growing up in the church say this is gonna happen. And I just sense that something cataclysmic is about to take place.
Philip:So Paul Zink is my guest today, and I can't wait for you to meet him if you haven't met him before. You're in for a great blessing. If you could right now share — we do this program in two parts. This little bit right now is for social media, and then I start the real program. That's like a pre-show that we do here just now. And if you could help us by clicking on the like and the share button on whatever social media you are watching us and invite your friends and family.
Philip:We learned that because of the nature of our programs, some of the subjects that we meet and talk about regarding unborn babies and marriage, et cetera, they give you a code when you broadcast, and that code determines how much people see you. And we started out with a thousand viewers and sometimes there's none. And that tells us that something's being imposed upon us, but if you share it with your friends, they can't regulate that. So please do that if you would.
Philip:And also, if you can go to YouTube — YouTube slash dailyfaith.com — we are there all the time. All our programs are catalogued there. And the main point to get in contact with us is dailyfaith.tv. And if you go to Daily Faith TV, all our past shows are there as well. There's a great merchandise page. People really enjoy the stuff we produce. My son came to me many years ago when we traveled with a whole bunch of kids from Moldova and he says, we need to have T-shirts. I've never worn a T-shirt in my life. And I says, T-shirts?
Philip:And we began to design T-shirts. And those T-shirts fund all of our travel expenses to allow us to give the funds donated to us to the works that we're doing in Eastern Europe. And pray for Eastern Europe right now, because Ukraine and Russia are about to go into a phase of war that we have not yet seen. And we've got a whole bunch of kids sitting in a home in Odessa that we're watching. Literally, I was up during the night last night talking about what might be happening. So we've just got so much to talk about, and I can't wait for you to hear what my dear friend has got to say. So listen, I'm delighted you're here today. Welcome to Daily Faith.
Philip:Hello, my friend. Welcome to Daily Faith. My name is Philip Cameron, and I am so pleased you are joining us today. We have got a tremendous program. A few men in my life — I came to America, believe this or not, I came to America with my dad. He preached and I played the accordion and sang. And I arrived here on the 12th of March, 1969. I am now in my 56th year of ministry in this country. Isn't that crazy? My mom is 96 back home in Scotland, and she and my dad and I traveled for many years in an old Winnebago motor home — the old ugly ones, you know, the ones with the pointy faces, like they're angry.
Philip:And I saw one for sale the other day, so I took a picture of it. I sent it to my mom and I said, Mom, do you remember this? And she says, oh, she says, some of my best memories were in that old motor home. So we've been traveling for a long time. And my guest today — if you were to say to me, in one hand, the greatest man of God I've ever met in my life, my guest today is one of those men. He's a mentor to me, and still to this day I love him with all my heart, and his whole family are very precious to us. And Bishop Paul Zink, he's the overseer of New Life Church in Jacksonville, Florida. You talk about a man of vision, and he's gonna be talking to us today.
Philip:Before we do that, I want to give you an update on what's taking place in our home in Odessa. The last few days, Russia — the whole thing has heated up. President Biden has given Ukraine permission to use the missiles that they have in offensive manners. So now they can project power two or three hundred miles inside Russia's borders. And they're doing it. And during the night I heard that they've been approved to put out landmines. And that by itself will escalate things incredibly. On the other side, Russia has involved 10,000 North Korean troops that are on the ground, boots on the ground as we speak, trying to break the will of the Ukrainian army.
Philip:So things are absolutely tense. The other night, our kids were woken up in Odessa with missile attacks. Ten people were killed, forty people were injured. And this is only going to intensify over and over again in the next few weeks, up until the transition of presidencies. I think there's a window of real danger because Russia doesn't think the same way about nuclear devices as America. America's doctrine is that you push the button, the red button, and it's all over — MAD, mutual assured destruction. Russia thinks that they can release a limited nuclear strike. They can hit Kyiv, for example, and destroy that city. And by doing so, like America did in the last World War — you drop the bomb on Nagasaki, Hiroshima — and Japan, when they realized that this was the future. And so things are incredibly dangerous at this moment.
Philip:So we have a home in Odessa. We have a village of homes in Chișinău now, a beautiful place called Vara Village. It's on the largest lake in the whole country. And that place right now — you're looking at where those houses are full to the brim of young folks. And Chișinău, Moldova is such a small, insignificant country that they are on this list, the red warning list, that if Russia gets to Odessa, it'll take Chișinău as well. So we are in a real watching, praying, and waiting situation to move our kids out of Odessa. They did this last year, or two years ago, when the war broke out. We took our girls from Kyiv to Chișinău for a year, and they had to go back because of studies. So please pray.
Philip:I know to most people this is a war that's way over there somewhere, isn't affecting you. It sure is affecting us because our kids are involved right in the middle, under this cloud of imminent destruction. And we are looking at buying a property on the Romanian side of Moldova so we can move all our kids right to Romania, which is in Western Europe. And we are hoping the Russians wouldn't go into Romania. But things are really tense there. And I need you to be praying with me that the blood of Jesus protects our kids. They're amazing young folk. They've come to us broken from horrendous poverty, from orphanages. And God allows us to speak into their lives and tell them there's hope and they're not a mistake. And our motto was, if you are born, God has a plan.
Philip:One of our girls just came recently. Her name's Nadia. She and two sisters — a big family from real, horrendous poverty — came and said, can we come and stay at Vara Village? And we took them in and they're now being very successful in school. Nadia sent me a video just the other day. I want you to watch this.
Nadia:My name is Nadia, and I am currently pursuing a master's degree in leadership and training. Growing up in a family with nine children was both a challenge and a blessing. We lived in a tiny house where all nine of us crammed into one room while our parents slept in the kitchen. My mom and dad didn't have a formal education, which meant my dad worked tirelessly in construction while my mom devoted herself to caring for us. Our childhood was tough. There were days when we struggled to find something to eat. In the cold winter, we often bundled up in layers of clothing just to stay warm while we slept. Celebrating birthdays felt impossible. We simply couldn't afford special meals.
Nadia:Yet somehow God never abandoned us. He always looked after us in ways we couldn't even see. From the age of six, we would rise before dawn, around 4:00 AM, to work the fields so we could have something to eat. This often made us late for school, and the other kids sometimes teased us, even bullying us because of our poverty. Those moments were painful, but they also shaped us. We learned to lean on each other, to support one another through every hardship.
Nadia:When I finished high school, deep down I knew my parents wouldn't have the resources to help me continue my education, but their lack of schooling inspired me to seek out new paths for myself. So when I discovered the Orphan's Hands, it felt like a miracle. I could hardly believe that such a family existed, that they could offer us so much hope and support. When I first arrived at Vara Village and saw the beautiful homes, my heart was overwhelmed. Our house had none of these comforts. We didn't even have a bathroom or proper flooring.
Nadia:In that moment, I truly understood the depth of God's goodness through the Orphan's Hands family. I felt enveloped in God's love in a way I had never experienced before. My heartfelt encouragement to you is to place your trust in God, no matter the circumstances. Find the courage to hold on through life's challenges, because it's often in those struggles that new beginnings emerge. Remember, this is not the end. It's just the start of something beautiful.
Philip:Boy, do I love that story. Mercy and grace. That's exactly the kind of girl that the traffickers are looking for. Nadia comes from a poverty-stricken village, no hope, hoping for an education. And they'll meet someone, they'll say, listen, we can help you. We can get you a job with us, or babysit. And they're gone. And hundreds of thousands of Moldovan girls are trafficked all over the world right now. And in our amazing place called Vara Village, they come to us — and also in Odessa — they come to us broken, with no purpose, no hope. And we love them into the kingdom of God.
Philip:And in fact, I got some pictures yesterday from Pavel, one of our house parents. They were out and a family — the mother and father had died and left these two little boys. And this old woman and her husband, both with heart problems, have taken these two boys in. And our kids — each of the houses in Vara Village adopts a village. And they spend time, they literally go to every house in the village. They care for the widows, they cultivate their gardens. And this couple came onto our radar screen and we brought them some food and some clothes. And the woman says, please, can we have some wood for wintertime? And I got pictures yesterday of our kids walking in with a whole bunch of clothes and a pile of wood in the courtyard, in the yard of their house.
Philip:You make these things happen. Every miracle that we perform and we see in these kids' lives is a result of someone just like you giving a dollar a day. You can change a life for a dollar a day. And if you'll be a part with us and believe God with us, we can see great things happen. We wanna expand and grow and continue to grow as the harvest field presents to us. And one of those girls — you're looking at another video — in the hands of a trafficker is worth $300,000. If they're worth that to the trafficker, I believe they're worth a dollar a day to the church.
Philip:And I'm gonna ask you to pray. If you're a business person, we're looking for sponsors for this new village that we're building in another part of the country. And we are looking for miracles to take place. And we believe that God is speaking to folks' hearts to be a part with us. Really simple: PO Box 25, Daily Faith, PO Box 25, Clinton, Tennessee 37716. You can also dial 833 and then dial Daily Faith, the name on your keypad of your phone. And a live person will pick up the phone and talk to you. And also — the quickest way, of course — is go to dailyfaith.tv. There's a giving page there. Make your life count for someone else. Help them see hope.
Philip:And when you do, I promise you, in your situation, for your family situation, for your own saved loved ones, prodigal sons — as you are making hope and care for those that no one else cares for, you are allowing the grace of God to be made manifest in your life. I'm glad you can be a part with us. Listen, I love my friend Paul Zink. I've known him since we were both — well, I was a teenager. I think he's a couple of years older than I am, but he's been such a part of my entire life, entire ministry. And we are just delighted to have him with us on Daily Faith.
Philip:Paul, I'm so glad to have you. God bless you, my friend. How are you doing?
Paul Zink:I'm quite well, Philip. Good to see you as well. Always lovely. And that story is phenomenal. You know, when your dad came to you and talked about feeding the orphans, there was some resistance because you had a lot on your plate. And now when you think about that little bitty seed that he planted and what has happened, and the hundreds of children that have been saved, rescued, and are continuing to be rescued — you cannot tell me that God doesn't use little, tiny thoughts to make his kingdom.
Philip:Believe it. Huge benefits. Believe that or not, that was 35 years ago.
Paul Zink:I believe it. It's 35 years.
Philip:Andrew's now — he's just given us the most beautiful grandbaby. And what's exciting is that video you just watched — you saw when all the girls were together, there's a man and his wife beside him holding a baby. That girl's called Galena. She came to our first homes, had never been hugged, had never had love shown to her. And she now married this lovely young man who's a lawyer by his trade. And they are now the house parents. Every house parent in Vara Village was an orphan that we rescued beforehand. So it's the second generation.
Paul Zink:You told me a story — and I got to meet the young lady when I was over there — of a young lady whose father would punish her by taking dried kernels of corn, putting them on the floor, and making her kneel on her knees on those kernels of corn as punishment.
Philip:Yep.
Paul Zink:And I thought, man, the kind of stuff these kids have seen — American children really don't know anything about that kind of torment.
Philip:Absolutely. And what we're doing with these new houses that we're believing God for — for little kids, kids between four and twelve years of age up to sixteen — because we've learned that a lot of the abuse in life is when they're little babies, little kids. And so we want to create — each of these houses will house 25 kids, so we'll have 50 little kids. And our goal and our dream is to put the gospel into them when they're five and six and seven years of age, so that by the time they get to Vara, they'll be full of the Holy Ghost, ready to take the country for the Lord Jesus. And you've been such a part of this since the beginning, and I can't thank you enough.
Paul Zink:Oh, we love it, Philip. Even though you were talking about the wars that are going on over there, it should not surprise us because Jesus said there'll be wars and rumors of wars. And we've always had wars, but not to this level. This is a different kind of historical moment. You've had wars forever in history, but with the kind of weaponry that is available to humankind now, these things are at a completely different level. And as I talk to you and others, I believe we're living in what is called the beginning of sorrows.
Beginning of Sorrows and Biblical Prophecy
Paul Zink:And the scripture tells us that before Jesus comes, before that horrible tribulation time comes, there will be a beginning of sorrows. And it mentions nations, mainly by their old Hebrew or Greek names, but it's the very same nations that we're listening to in the news today. And Philip, there's an urgency. And my heart goes out because we just had a monumental election.
Paul Zink:Historical, yes. And honestly, I know some people won't like this, but I believe it was an intervention of God. And giving more time for us to reach nations, reach people, before the system of the antichrist begins to be so evident and takes over. You know, it's a window of opportunity that God is giving us, because there has been a stoppage of the maddening effect of globalism, for now.
2024 Election as Divine Intervention
Philip:You took the words out of my mouth. The whole point — if folk don't understand this, because America is such an island unto itself — what is taking place in the world is this demonic push for globalism, by a few powerful entities that want to control the whole world. And one of the great hatreds of Trump is that he believes that America should stand — America first, that's the policy. We don't need the world. We can stand on our own rights.
Paul Zink:Philip, I'm not sure if I should say this or not, but I'm going to anyway. I saw a movie the other day. Glenn Beck was the first one to put me onto it. And it's called Nefarious. I don't know if I've mentioned it to you or not.
Globalism as a Demonic System
Philip:Nefarious. You have. Tell us about it.
Paul Zink:I can't emphasize enough the importance — at least every minister of the gospel needs to watch it, because it talks about the supernatural entities that are controlling human thought and human endeavor. And it is shocking. And it's so right on biblically that it shocks you. It's amazing. Please watch Nefarious. I watched it on YouTube. I bought a copy of it. It's riveting.
The Film Nefarious and Satanic Influence
Paul Zink:Because I believe, as it shows in this movie — and it's done very, very well — it shows how the satanic influence on the world is being played out. And it shows spiritual warfare. And it is really, in my opinion, the best depiction of what is happening right now in our world. And I can't begin to tell you how important it is, because Christians, especially in the political arena, they're looking at biblical worldview culture, which is absolutely essential. It's primary. But behind the biblical worldview culture is indeed a spiritual war. And every spirit carries with it a nature. Every spirit has a nature, every thought has a nature behind it.
Paul Zink:And it's a supernatural nature. And the prince of darkness, the father of all lies, has a great ability to influence the thoughts of the human race. And the church — we're trying to fight, as we should, on a political level, gaining back some ground, so the biblical worldview culture can at least be taught to our kids in school. But they're not getting the full picture, because it's more than biblical philosophy against woke philosophy. It's a spiritual nature. And that nature has to be recognized. And there has to be a minding of the nature behind the thoughts.
Paul Zink:So the woke thing — every thought, the woke nature — the woke thing is a spirit.
Philip:It's a spirit. Yes, it is.
Paul Zink:It's a spirit. No question. And it has a character. And what's happening — if we're not careful — and listen, I was very involved in getting the vote out. It has to be done, and was done in a way that has never been before. Say what you will about President Trump, he was fighting not only a woke mentality in Washington, but the entirety — except for a few minor exceptions — of the media and social media. Everything was coming against him. And somehow, by an intervention of God, and assassin's bullets.
Philip:Assassin's bullets. It's unbelievable.
Paul Zink:It's unbelievable. So, you know, here's the problem. If we're not careful, the church will fall back into this idea that we fight politically, and they'll forget to fight supernaturally. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. And there are territories in the earth now — you cannot bind Satan and place him in hell. You can't do that. It's not his time. But you have authority in the area in which you reside. There are boundaries. God set boundaries and borders in place. When you are in those boundaries and borders, you live there. You have authority in the area you live. And you can push back.
Political vs. Supernatural Warfare
Paul Zink:You see, if we look at it politically, the devil doesn't play politics. He plays supernatural warfare. And his target isn't Washington. His target is the church. He wants to destroy the church because that is the last agency of God to resist him on this earth. So if we only use political schemes and mechanisms, we are missing out on the fact that we don't wrestle against flesh and blood. So it's a two-pronged war.
Satan's Target Is the Church
Philip:Exactly. And the Lord forewarned us of that.
Paul Zink:Yes, it is a war on two fronts.
Philip:Two fronts. You're absolutely right. But the church — and I agree with the pastors who stood up and took a stand, I count myself in that number — but I do believe that it is very important for us to raise up an army of prayer warriors and intercessors all over the earth. Especially if you're a pastor of a certain area, do it in your area and raise up a spiritual border wall that can push back these infiltrators. And as long as we do that, there's a chance for greater harvest and revival in the world.
Philip:I just know that we are in the most critical season that America has had. And because of that, the world has had. And I believe these next few weeks, between now and the new president coming in, is going to be a time fraught with danger. We are going to see hellacious things take place. And why Biden released these missiles, I have no idea. It is just inviting a world war.
Paul Zink:It absolutely is. And I was on Dr. Cho's board with him on his world evangelism program. Every year I would go to Seoul, Korea. And Seoul, Korea has a prayer movement that is so large. I was in a prayer meeting. I led prayer for a group of 250,000 Koreans. And that was just one of the groups. And they pushed back the DMZ, the demilitarized zone on North Korea. The military's there, but what pushes them back is the prayer. And I'm telling you, I've seen it firsthand. I saw the grottos that they built inside of Mount Halla, with a door on it, where you go in and spend hours in prayer and fasting. And that is what caused that church to become the largest church in the world at that time — one million people.
Seoul Korea Prayer Movement and the DMZ
Paul Zink:And so we've got to realize the spiritual warfare aspect is essential, essential to our day.
Philip:I think what you're saying is that South Korea has been protected by more than just American might — it's being protected by the power and the prayer of a church. And in your town, if you're watching us right now in a little wee town somewhere in America, or if you're watching us in a big city, your power — the power that you can release through prayer and intercession — can hold back the powers of darkness. It's not police that's gonna do it, it's not ICE that's gonna do it. That's all fine, those are mechanisms of the earth. But it's the Holy Ghost-filled church that is anointed and visionary and in love with Jesus that is going to be the bulwark, the ultimate bulwark, against what's taking place in the world.
Philip:I've taken off the last minute of what we do at the end of the show to give us a wee bit more time. What do you see coming in the next year or so? Where do you see America going, and the world, and the church?
Paul Zink:Well, again, I think Trump is in, but his enemies haven't stopped. Nor will they stop. And we prayed for the election, but now we need to be praying for God's warrior and cover him. Because I believe there'll be more assassination attempts. I believe there'll be political uprisings. I believe the media will go after him as they have for years. None of that's gonna stop. So if the church doesn't wake up and go after the spiritual warfare, we're gonna lose territory. That's what I think.
Raising Up Intercessors in Every Region
Philip:Well, I just believe that we have come to the kingdom for such a time as this. These are the days that we are looking at. And I love you so much. I appreciate you so much. Your wisdom has always amazed me. And we need to have you back on. In fact, we put some equipment in your home so we could see more of you on Daily Faith, because we love you. He is the overseer of New Life Christian Church in Jacksonville. If you are anywhere near Jacksonville, go visit their church. It will absolutely bless your life. Thank you, Pastor. We'll see you again. Thank you for watching Daily Faith. Bye-bye.
Paul Zink:Bye-bye.
Common questions
What does Bishop Zink think the movie Nefarious is about and why does he recommend it?
Bishop Zink says Nefarious depicts how supernatural, satanic entities are controlling human thought and endeavor, and he calls it the best portrayal of what is happening in the world right now. He believes every minister of the gospel needs to watch it because it shows spiritual warfare in a way that is both shocking and biblically accurate. He was so moved by it that he bought his own copy after first watching it on YouTube.
Does Bishop Zink think the 2024 U.S. election was just a political event?
No — Bishop Zink believes it was a direct intervention of God, not merely a political outcome. He sees it as a window of opportunity God is granting the church to reach more people before the system of the antichrist becomes fully evident, and he points to Trump surviving assassination attempts as further evidence of that divine intervention.
Why does Bishop Zink warn the church not to rely only on political action?
Bishop Zink argues that the devil doesn't play politics — he wages supernatural warfare, and his real target is the church, not Washington. He says Christians fighting only on a political level are missing the deeper spiritual battle, because 'we don't wrestle against flesh and blood.' He calls it a two-pronged war that requires both political engagement and serious spiritual warfare through prayer.
What does Bishop Zink say about the prayer movement in South Korea and what can the church learn from it?
Bishop Zink served on Dr. Cho's board and personally led prayer for a group of 250,000 Koreans, describing a prayer culture so massive it helped push back the threat from North Korea beyond what military force alone could achieve. He says that sustained, large-scale prayer and fasting is what caused Cho's church to grow to one million members and become the largest in the world at the time, and he holds it up as a model for what the church must return to today.
What does Bishop Zink mean when he says 'woke' is a spirit, not just a philosophy?
Bishop Zink says that behind every cultural or ideological movement there is a spiritual nature, and the 'woke' agenda is no exception — it is a spirit with its own character and influence. He warns that Christians who frame the battle purely as biblical worldview versus woke philosophy are missing the supernatural dimension, because the prince of darkness has a real ability to shape human thought, and that nature must be recognized and resisted spiritually, not just intellectually or politically.
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